>The point is that after updating Java - things have gone from bad to >worse. > >I've tried Safari - same thing. So I assume that it mast be related to the >Java management by the OS. I think you should count yourself lucky if you were getting Java applets to work at all. Apple has historical been terrible at Java implementation, and while OSX has made GREAT strides at improving that, they are still only mediocre, IMHO. I have had very little success with Java applets on any browser before or after the recent update (though I haven't used IE for months)... I just keep hoping that one of these updates will actually get it right... -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Mike Bigley Maineville, Ohio http://www.norbertrunning.com Please support an American Indian Elder & Medicine Man by visiting the above link. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>