>>The point is that after updating Java - things have gone from bad to >>worse. >> >>I've tried Safari - same thing. So I assume that it mast be related to the >>Java management by the OS. Have you tried repairing permissions and the updating pre-binding instructions that were floating around this list? That seemed to help my performance after this update; though, as stated previously, browser-based applets have always been and continue to be dismal at best. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Mike Bigley Maineville, Ohio http://www.norbertrunning.com Please support an American Indian Elder & Medicine Man by visiting the above link. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>