So glad to hear that, but right now I feel just the opposite...that Windoze is working well, and OS 10 is like an tight "Gordian knot". (uh oh..."bleating again"...) So...a favor from you (see below): Iwf you're running OS 10.2.4, with IE 5.2 AND Netscape Navigator 7.0.2 installed, would you mind doing me a favor and try opening pogo.com, clicking on backgammon, going to any room and setting up a "table"? Can you please let me know if you got the backgammon board on both? TIA, Best, Henry On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, XXL wrote: > Gee, I love the reliability of OS X. I owned every OS 9 utility and used > them a LOT. I just have no problems with OS X at all. My big problem is > all my PC buddies always calling me to fix their Wintel stuff. I have > finally gotten to the point of telling them "If I wanted to be tweaking > Wintel machines all the time I would BUY one." Not all of them have taken > it gracefully. > -Joel > > >> Not trying to be too harsh here but all your bleating about the "woes of OSX"