Re On/Off topic-- I assume we each draw the sharp line in the gray region differently, but I consider an elist generally open to civil discussion on ANY topic likely of interest to the purpose of the list. I joined this list when I was getting my Ti (800), and topics of interest and usefulness to me have included Ti paint, Ti battery, OSX (which was quite new to me), opinions on diverse utilities, Safari issues, new Apple hardware, 10.2.4 problems, etc. Apple market share and Apple corporate viability (as well as ignorance, bias, and myth in the computer market generally) are of vital long-range concern, because I prefer a world with Macs (current hard/software and original design philosophy) to one without. How we, Mac users, treat software, property rights, and license obligations, reflect on us, on Apple, and on the economic viability of the Mac. I really don't want to join ten separate lists when my basic concern is simply learning about and keeping up with Macs, focused on Ti laptop issues. The alternative strikes me as grossly time inefficient but also balkanizes our community. Daniel Kegan * daniel at keganlaw.com * Kegan & Kegan, Ltd. We identify, develop, and protect intangible business assets and counsel other professionals on legal issues. Balanced Counsel for Smart Clients * www.keganlaw.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 312=782-6495 x21 On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 03:10 PM, PowerBook G4 Titanium List wrote: > Subject: From: Bill White <billwhite at mac.com> >>> Aaagh. Please, there must be some other forum for lobbing arguments >>> about >>> beta software legality. >> There are many but it's on this one the topic came up. > So if a thread gets started about, say, the health risks of using your > TiBook while driving, and that follows tangents about car models and > driving > conditions, then that's okay? They're important issues as well. > > I agree with Khyber. This is so far OT where Titanium PowerBooks are > concerned it isn't funny. It started as a discussion about Safari, > which was > OT enough to begin with!