>Apple's had it with Safari build testers who can't keep a secret. I don't blame them. Anyway, I downloaded beta67, and I'm going straight back to 64. The timeout problems are worse, and it did not render a few pages correctly that were correct (as in, the way IE does it) in 64. -- Victor Eijkhout <eijkhout at cs.utk.edu> tel: 865 974 9308 (W), 865 673 6998 (H), 865 974 8296 (F) http://www.cs.utk.edu/~eijkhout/