Tarik Bilgin paused, thought it over, and spoke thusly: >Good idea. > >does anyone know where the trash is stored on the disk so that i >could just use a shell to do this? there are several, the one you want is at ~/.Trash it's an invisible file, hence the 'dot' before the name. But why don't you move the files out of Trash and boot into OS 9 and delete them? ~flipper