Michael Bigley paused, thought it over, and spoke thusly: > Am I stealing music if I paid for a cassette, 8-track, LP or 45 (or >maybe even a 78!!) of that song or album? No you are not, you are simply acquiring something that exists, with the permission of its 'possessor'. However, due to the nature of recording contracts, none of the purchase price is finding its way back to the Artist, or their estate. Which serves to deflate the red herring of 'denying the struggling artist their due', which the companies also trot out in their offensive 'defense. Two wrongs do not make a right. i learned this as a child, and like to think we all did. I have also bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of music and software, on 'spec', only to find much of it lacking in value to me. So, why should i blindly continue this 'wrongful', hurtful [to me] behavior, when it is possible to evaluate before a purchase? If all commerce was transacted in the same manner, we would never see groceries, or their fitness to be consumed, wed buy all clothes based on written description, or some toadies assurance 'well love it', and cars would be delivered,paid for, up front, whether running properly or not, AND we wouldn't be able to let the wife drive the car, share the food with the kids, etc. However, due to poorly thought out extensions of copyright, and the larger agenda on the part of the powers that be, the record industry, is given a 'pass' from the normal rules of doing fair business. I cannot speak for those outside America, but here, in that part of the US where we take the Constitution seriously, it is our duty to disobey the 'convention' of the latest law, when it is morally wrong to obey blindly. Not a 'right', a duty. One further note: The Constitution has been misrepresented, and frighteningly so. It is NOT about granting limited, specified 'rights', it IS all about limiting the Power of government. All so-called 'inalienable rights' where not specifically forbidden, are assumed to exist, and be respected, requiring neither 'majority opinion', nor legislation. laws are changed when they are shown to abrogate the spirit of the Constitution. All well and good, as long as the separation of powers is in place. But where collusion exists between the 9th circuit, the Supreme Court, regulators in the bureaucratic Gov't, the bought-and-paid-for-Congress, and Industry, well, the table is set for civil disobedience. Art has survived and at times, thrived, for thousands of years without Disney, AOL, and Sony. It is silly, and terribly cultural-centric to assume/fear otherwise. ~flipper