Sam Hotchkiss paused, thought it over, and spoke thusly: >Is it just me... Or has it only been about a week since 10.2.5? So what was >wrong with 10.2.5? Besides the Finder that-wouldn't-go-away? Not much, unless you count odd stuff like some of the original applications in Developer's tools that no longer allow themselves to run in lproj. Admittedly, not a mainstream concern, but I wanted to open up Daisy [the sound app project] and it's no go. If I'd been on the tech team at Apple, any one of the last three updates would have had 'Relaunch Finder' as a 24/7 automated task, say, on 45 minute intervals. Kind of like the reboot thing in a big NT server. <laughs> ~flipper