Someone was asking about video conferencing software on this list; this following just came up on my version tracker email: SquidCam 1.5b48 (Beta - 05/18/2003) video conferencing, net phone & chat application <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/mac/15974> I have no idea of quality, etc., but it seems to be about the only thing out their for OSX. However, this also came across the Apple Developer's list: [13] WebEx for Mac OS X WebEx Meeting Center 5.0 lets you collaborate using application and web browser sharing, chat, teleconferencing and live video. This release takes full advantage of the Mac OS X platform providing increased reliability and a great look with the use of the new Aqua standard. Visit the WebEx booth at the WWDC 2003 to see a demo of WebEx for Mac OS X. <http://www.webex.com/services_macosx.html> -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Mike Bigley Maineville, Ohio http://www.norbertrunning.com Please support an American Indian Elder & Medicine Man by visiting the above link. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>