On 11/20/03 9:26 AM, "RRSounds at aol.com" <RRSounds at aol.com> wrote: > > > Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:52:14, Jesse Brown <jesse.brown at mac.com> wrote: > > << > And who would you be referring to in "he"? Me or Halton Arp? > -- > Jesse >>> > > > As the Subject line says, H. Arp. Unless you are writing under a pseudonym for > Mr. Arp. > :-) > > I don't think computers, therefore Ti-books, hence this list, would exist > without an exquisite combination of intelligence and education. No argument > I look at people such as Steve Wozniak, a very good example of an educated, > smart man who has offered his talents to academia, and cannot help but believe > we are a better race by having such people in our midst. No argument there either > Saying these people are out of touch with reality is a slam on the concept of > intelligence and the value of education, and their usefulness to Humankind. Not referring to them at all. This is not an educated vs uneducated or poorly educated argument but rather one of dogma and overspecialization. > Though the 'reality' which intelligent people see may not jibe with that > perceived by those of lesser intellect/schooling, it does not follow that one > is more 'real' than the other. The quote is referring to some extremely intelligent people with elite education who become so wrapped up in the dogma of their specialties that they literally cannot perceive reality even when it slams them upside the head. Or they refuse to acknowledge anyone who would question their worldview. Halton Arp is a distinguished astronomer who has run afoul of the "mainstream" Astronomy establishment for suggesting that "redshift" may not be an indicator of cosmological distance and offers much evidence that would possibly destroy the "Big Bang" theory. All he suggests is that the evidence warrants a closer look. Instead, mainstream astronomers continue to get more angels to dance on the head of pin to prop up the ridiculous Big Bang theory. As a result, no matter how good or relevant the evidence he presents, it is blackballed from being published or acknowledged by the mainstream science community. And for the life of me I can't squeeze in any Mac or Powerbook related stuff so anyone wishing to pursue this conversation off line, I would be happy to take up the conversation one on one. It's quite interesting if you are in anyway interested in Cosmology or Astronomy. -- Jesse "If it be the chief point of friendship to comply with a friends motions and inclinations, the dog possesses this in eminent degree: he lies down when I sit and walks when I walk, which is more than many good friends can pretend to do." -A. Pope