On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Tarik wrote: > > On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 02:59 am, Henry Kalir wrote: > > > John, > > > > NO, you are NOT the only one who thinks Apple is responsible. > > Hi ti-listers, > > I don't want to get too involved in this long thread other than to > offer the reality that software companies sell software that is rarely > perfect. In fact, the further you go away from mission critical systems > like defence and banking, and closer to "consumer" systems, the more > imperfect the systems are. <<<snipped>>> > If a salesman came to your door offering a brand new lock that they > would install for nothing that had significant technical advantages, > would you sign up? Tarik, Not quite analogous to the situation here: Apple did not offer us a brand new lock for nothing - we all BOUGHT OS 10.2.0 The 10.2.8 is a direct product from the company **selling** us that original OS 10.2.0 and telling us, at that time, that upgrades would be forthcoming AND that they would be easy to automatically get through the Software Update Program. NOW...back to YOUR analogy: If you had PURCHASED a new lock, and sometime later - that SAME lock **manufacturer** (whose product you had trusted enough in the first place to guard your house for you) had offered you an improvement (as someone who had already PURCHASED his product)...and upon allowing that "improvement" to be made you found yourself locked out of your house ...would you still be so "umderstanding"...especially if you learn that this is something which has also been happening to others? Best, Henry