I have been following the thread with the problems in 10.2.8 and I always wondered WHERE people got the LEGAL copy of this update from. My (norwegian) software update did not show anything at all (no x.2.7 or x.2.8) until tonight (4th of October) and I am downloading it now... I have been running 10.2.6 until now, so I was thinking all of u got the 10.2.7 via new powerbooks so that's why you could download the update.. or actually, I was thinking all of you had gotten it from other sources... Why did it show up first now? Something to do with translating the software? Or just carefulness from apple norway :) Dr. Daniel Borge, M.D. http://www.borgepalace.com Norway