>Use it to open a local html document. If it loads it fine then it >could be DNS. If you have been >playing with Panther and rolled back to Jaguar it will kill Safari >too unless you ditch the >preferences and reinstall from the most current release for Jaguar. This is difficult to test (and a reason I don't believe it is DNS), as when it is working it is working, but it just quits working and hangs; I can't load any pages or access Safari at all, except Force Quit. If it were a DNS problem, I would think that it would fail all the time, until the DNS was addressed. Here is a recap of what did and did not work for me, which may help those with future problems: resetting safari did not work; emptying cache did not work; As suggested on this list, repairing permissions and ditching prefs did not work; Preparing for the third suggestion -- reinstall -- I discovered a folder called safari in the User/Library/Cache folder; ditching that made all well again, without needing to reinstall the app. Obviously I am visiting a site that doesn't play well with safari; if this recurs I will ditch Cache first, to confirm that is the issue, and hopefully discover what site is causing this. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Mike Bigley Maineville, Ohio http://www.norbertrunning.com Please support an American Indian Elder & Medicine Man by visiting the above link. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>