EVERY storage medium will degrade over time. Among CD-Rs, the best is probably Mitsui, which I would expect to see maybe 100 years, assuming you don't abuse the CDs. A few years ago, I went through a huge stack of floppies, reformatting each one to see if it had any bad blocks. If there were bad blocks, the disk got tossed; once it starts going, it's not a good idea to risk using the disk if you care about your data. Two thirds of the disks got tossed. Now, these disks weren't under ideal conditions, but rather real-world conditions. They got carried around, used, whatever. But I've had far more floppies fail on me than CD-R or DVD-R discs. Anyway, even a hard drive will eventually go bad. You might get a little more time out of it if it's not plugged in, but even so it will eventually die, and if the controller on the drive dies 3 years from now and you don't find out about it for 15 more, it might be hard to find a new controller card to swap in to try and resurrect the drive. Somebody else had the best idea; keep multiple generations of backups if your data is that important. I would also recommend using several different types of storage media; maybe MO, for example. And, of course, you should keep backups in multiple locations. Kynan Shook kshook at mac.com http://homepage.mac.com/kshook/index.html Michael Bigley <wakinyan at fuse.net> writes: > I once left a floppy in my shirt pocket; it went through the washer > and dryer. The metal "protector" broke off, but I stuck the thing in > my Mac IIci and copied the data off with no problem (Don't try this > at home, haha). I have been contemplating putting the hundreds of > floppies I have onto a couple of CDs, but guess that wouldn't be > worth the time, eh? Do hard drives degrade without use? They are so > cheap now, perhaps a hot swap device would be the best bet on long > term storage???