JG, >There is no need for L3 cache anymore. L3 cache was only there to help >compensate for the low bus bandwidth. The L3 ran at 133Mhz. Now the Bus >bottleneck is gone. To Put 133Mhz L3 cache in there would BECOME the new >bottleneck in an outwise DDR speed memory pipeline. This is why P4 etc has >no L3. Huh? This is incorrect. L3 cache is attached DIRECTLY on its own bus to the processor, which runs at a multiple of the processor's clock. The old 17" PowerBook had 1MB of L3 cache running at 250MHz and a system bus at 167MHz. It had 256k L2 cache running at 1GHz. I think the performance increase in the old vs new 17" is due to the larger L2 cache (which runs at the processor's clock rate, 1.33GHz). Jeremy -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ jeremy at kezer.net http://www.kezer.net/ +-----------------------------------------------------------------+