Flipper, sorry about the original spelling.. I appreciate your insight. You didn't mention though about disk optimization provided by journaling that others have mentioned. What are your thoughts there? David On Aug 6, 2004, at 1:08 PM, b wrote: > Kynan Shook paused, thought it over, and spoke thusly: > >> Writing to the disk slows down by about 10% or so; so little of your >> computer's time is spent writing that turning it off won't make much >> of a difference, except for making reboots after a crash take much, >> much longer. > > With all due respect, running a 667 Ti here, that i keep maintained to > the max, with external Firewire 800 drives running on the PC card slot > (that read/write 10MB/sec faster than the internal IBM drive), and a > GB of RAM, and some free disk space.... why on Earth would I want to > save, what, 30 seconds once a week on a reboot, and, in return, give > up 10% of the speed on a constant basis? > > The logic escapes me totally. In 2 years I've had a grand total of one > kernel panic. Big deal. > > Lost data due to anything software/hardware related? ZERO. > > Acidentally hard-rebooting when a big app freezes causes a reboot that > takes about 1 minute 17 seconds. Normal reboot time: 1:17. Where's the > 'issue'? Reboot when booted into OS 9? Under 40 seconds. > > Analysis: Apple's 'hybrid' OSX (mach/Darwin/pdf/QuickTime window > manager/Finder has enough problems (speed included0, so why add to the > load? > > Giving up 10% (if it's even that little) on a constant basis, in > return for a marginally quicker restart after a catastrophic crash > (how often are they happening i'd like to know), ... is like losing 10 > bucks every five minutes and saying, "It's cool, I put 30 bucks in my > savings account every two weeks." Sounds inefficient, pointless, and > almost totally unnecessary. > > My advice: Back up your docs, email addresses, and passwords to a > gold-ongold CD or DVD, Keep your installers, and dump anything that > slows down the Mac. People, everywhere it seems, are 'filling-up' on > utilities that perform tasks that the OS can already do on its own, > and why? More clutter, more variables to sort through in cases of > conflicts... wasted space, and more missed opportunities to really > know and use the OS that's right in front of us (the one 'hidden' by > the GUI, of course). > > A Finder that uses thousands of _DS files to supposedly keep track of > each folder's contents, etc, and then pauses whenever any folder or > menu item is clicked for the first time after a login, and can't even > remember to "Open all new folders in Column View" (why is that > 'option' even included?)... does not need more 'baggage'. > > ~flipper > > ---------- > Check out the Titanium email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Titanium.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Titanium-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <Titanium-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <Titanium-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Remember, it's not, "How high are you?" it's "Hi, how are you?" Rest stop off Route 81, West Virginia