Well since I seem to be getting the "problems" Here's another one...sheesh!!! my junk mail filter doesn't seem to be working at all. I put it on (training) and despite junk mail coming in it doesn't even mark any of it as junk. none what so ever. I didn't want to trash the pref's as I wasn't sure this would take my account information, addresses etc...with it making me have to re enter things. Ideas on why the mail.app may not be working? cheers, tim