--On Friday, January 9, 2004 12:04 AM -0500 "Tom R. no spam" <tr5374 at csc.albany.edu> wrote: > Hmmmm, reading /etc/rc, and seeing the line > VerboseFlag="" > and then the case statement lines near-below including > VerboseFlag="-v" > has me wondering: If the 1st entry were > VerboseFlag="-v" > would that force a verbose startup? Don't go messing with that. Instead, start a terminal session and enter: sudo nvram boot-args="-v" (Enter your admin password when prompted.) It sets a parameter in the nonvolatile RAM. That'll do it for you. I think sudo nvram boot-args= will turn it back off -- Dennis Fazio dfz at mac.com