Hi List, I have been having some problems with app's crashing (recently mail.app after I did the recent security update) and after doing things like using Cocktail and pram stuff etc I am still having problems. I think I want to reformat the drive and re install panther. I just need some general direction to get me started. 1. Is it better to reinstall all 3rd party app software separately or can I clone this tibook drive (i have cross over internet cable) on my Emac and drag applications back over from my Emac once I have a new system? 2. Even if I install totally new 3rd party app's how do I go about bringing things like my files in Imovie, iphoto, mail etc...back on to my tibook from my Emac. Can I drag particular folders back to the tibook which will have all the source files for these things? I am particularly worried about losing all my email address info, other things I can burn to dvd I suppose and cd as needed. 3. I have a lot of app's that are downloads with passwords, is it possible to drag specific folders over that will keep the passwords intact so I don't have to re input them all. I have a lot. Any guidance is much appreciated. cheers, tim tim.molnar Digital Tao http://www.digitaltao.ca Victoria: 250.721.3224 (currently) Regina: 306.585.3666 Cell: 250.661.6426 tam at em.ca