I am beginning to understand all the stories I've heard about mac zealots are all about. Don't get my wrong I do admire what comes out of this company and as a NeXTSTEP/Openstep Programmer from way back I've only jumped on the band wagon since OSX. Considering I paid $169 for Panther (Aus pricing) I simply would have expected that software that allows me to backup my hard drive to CD wouldn't be tied to a subscription service. Someone said that Backup uses the pax format and that's fine I was just explaining my reasons for not wanting to use any backup software that uses a non-standard format. I'm not saying Backup uses a non-standard format. I'm just explaining why it's important to me that it doesn't. I've not been convinced by any argument that it makes sense to tie Backup to .mac thru the optional use of the iDisk is a backup medium. Yes that's how it is and I probably cannot change it but that shouldn't stop me expressing my doubts about why it is. Anyway this thread can die if you let it. On Jan 30, 2004, at 1:55 AM, Chris Olson wrote: > > On Jan 29, 2004, at 3:05 PM, Robert Nicholson wrote: > >> A lot of people are often uncomfortable using a proprietory backup >> format simply because it limits the platform that restores can be >> performed on. > >> For some people it's not outrageous to think that they may want to >> recover from either linux or windows in the future. > > It's no problem if you care to look into it instead of automatically > *assuming* there's some sort of proprietary "lockin" with it. FYI, > .Mac works with Windows XP with the Windows .Mac client. If you use > linux, you're on your own, just like lots of other things related to > linux, from hardware support to software, so you'll have to "figure it > out". > > But your "concerns" are really non-issues. .Mac uses WebDAV and other > standard protocols to do it's communications and data storage. It > seems you have a huge problem with it in principle. So don't use it. > Make ISO's of your stuff and burn it to CD's or DVD's. Buy a FireWire > drive and back it up on that. Rsync all your stuff to your favorite > linux box. Whatever. Just *don't* use .Mac. > > You must understand that Backup is part of the .Mac package. It's > designed around convenience, and it's a perk of being a Mac user with > a .Mac subscription. Show me where else you can get all .Mac offers > for $8.33/month? I would guess that 99.9% of people who use it don't > worry about restoring to Windows or Linux, because we're Mac users, > and would quit using computers before we'd switch to either of those > other two alternatives. > > So I'd say, based on your concerns, don't use it. Invent your own > system. Of course, if your house burns down and your backup CD's and > computer get burned up, then your data is gone anyway. But at least > it wasn't stored in some proprietary non-free .Mac service. Right? > -- > Chris > > > ---------- > Check out the Titanium email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Titanium.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Titanium-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <Titanium-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <Titanium-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your > Mac ISP Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! > http://macinternetaccess.com > > RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler > CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at <http://roadtools.com> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml