A while ago, I had either a $40 belkin cable that shorted (sent juice to the data lines in the firewire bus, frying the unprotedted (no 11 cent breaker on the ->) firewire port on my 667. no firewire. Last fall a younf fellow ran off with the same Ti, and dropped it, from about 18 to 20 feet up an escalator near the concourse near Penn station. A 'stick' supporting a young potted plant, rammed its way up the DVD/CD slot and murdered the internal drive. The Ti, for the most part, survived.... and now the latest, aftyer trying to boot Panther Installer from a firewire CD burner/reader, plugged into a Firewire 800 port in the PC card bus/slot (to no avail), earlier this week, we come to today... well, i borrowed an Iomega zip650 from the only folks at work that use Macs. It's a USB CD drive. I tested it by copying an Adobe app installer to a CD in it, burned it, ejected, rloaded, launched, no problem So, I pop in the Panther Installer CD1, and it goes through the usual double-click, restart... no go, the box comes on, blinks once, and defaults to Jag so, I try again, hold down the "C" key, same deal. And again, select the Cd in Startup Disk, it shows up, reboot, no go I'll save a little bandwidth by summing up this way: I tried: Startup Disk + "C" key Restart off Installer, plus Startup Disk +"C" key and even the Option key boot: that was fun, it took the startup screen 10 minutes, but sure enough, the Installer icon finally showed up. But it didn't launch Every time, the Iomega is blinking like mad, and the few times where it seemed like my mac was ready to launch... the grey Apple turned into a circle with a line (diagonally) through it, while the Iomega just kept a -now- unblinking solid green light... no in/out, from the looks of it. Apple says: All i need is builtin USB,..... check 2 gigs of free drive space, .....check check check, and a half PowerPC G3, G4, or G5 ....... check (667 Ti-Book) at last 128 MB RAM ........ check X 9 builtin diplay or display connected to Apple-supplied video card... check So, what's up with this? Is there some trick to it? Am I to believe that one can't install from a USB CD drive into the builtin USB ports? Why is Apple the only software company on Earth that requires its OS installer to boot the machine? Does anyne have even a semblance of an idea on what i can actuallt do? I'll happily entertain anything feasible. Thank you ~flipper