Glenn L. Austin paused, thought it over, and spoke thusly: >My VPC has even been affected by other Wintel machines on the network, just >by connecting to the network. I just hope that M$ finally is able to shut >down all of the holes in the OS -- one day. Microsoft can't do anything about it all anymore. They're past the point of diminishing returns, wherein one 'fix' opens up multiple additional vulnerabilities. The internet, and cheap dial-up, and cheap intel boxes all adss up to one thing: phenomenal, exponential growth in PC users in the least likely population to be security 'savvy'.. newbies. it's not their fault. Next up the chain comes the local WANs and small to medium large corporate nets... and the IT/Sys Admins, there, are more and more reluctant to just download/install a 'patch' every 3 days, or whatever it is that they come out. A small net is 'mission critical' to the people whose livelihoods are hooked into it, so, jeoparding a functioning system because of 'email' viruses, or some 'arcane IIS problem, isn't in the cards, or 'automatic', the way it once was. There's only two groups of PC users that are probably adequately inoculated, at any given time: Internet backbone Sys Admins (and they get hit regularly, hence the 'public' nature of some of the more serious flaws, or 'vulnerabilities', and guys like me, excessively paranoid, loaded to the gills with anti-hacker/cracker/spy/adware/ port-blocking, etc... One piece of anti-trojan scanning app. and a "Little Snitch"-like utility will keep any PC from spreading anything harmful... but when 'free' screensavers and wallpaper, and free 'credit checks', etc, are packing software that dials papua ne Guinea, in the background, and getting massive phone bills and crap like that... it's amazing the web still works at all.. People open the door (port) a crack, and the next thing you know ... the boogeyman's in the house. people predict the fall of Apple, and assume there'll 'always be Microsoft, but who knows? The military is bailing out on MS...foreign gov'ts are really leery.... there's probably ten world-class programmers in India/China for every AOL user.. heheh, it could get real interesting from here on out. I've only had two very minor adware probs in VPC in years. The utilities are out there, people have to use them. Meanwhile, the Yahoos, and ATTs, and other corporate 'backbone types are transmitting what? 70% SPAM? why? Doesn't that impinge on available bandwidth? That wouldn't artificially keep the 'cost' of bandwidth high, would it? It's a mess. Oh, Trevor, go to your home Library/Prefs, check out the "Windows Applications" folder in Virtual PC 6 preferences, and see what's listed there. Maybe you're running more apps than you think. Also, get a copy of System Suite, or Super Utilities, and trash your temp files, do the Windoze clean up business, you'd be surprised how much bloat there is... ~flipper