khyber courchesne typed this message on 3/11/04 12:52 PM: > Thanks for the tip john. > Unfortunealty the beachball of death happens right off any fresh reboot, so > the console shows nothing. In fact, Activity Monitor doesn't really show a > spike either. Still 3-5 minutes to get a finder window, either from > Command-N or clicking on a desktop folder. Have you tried a "Safe Boot?" (Holding down the Shift key on reboot). Doing this gets you into a very slow and methodical scan of your files and booting sequence. It takes quite awhile to get into the Finder but once you have, it could be that the safeboot procedure will have spotted something and corrected it. You can then reboot normally and see if the bugs have been circumvented. jg