Hi Kynan, I realised that unfortunately, I am a victim of both dark and light pixels. Will be down to Apple Care tomorrow to make my claims. Thanks for the explanation. But like all die-hard users, we like our screens to be perfect even if the body is all spotted(Ti) and discolored(Pismo). Cheers, Lee On 5/10/04 12:32 AM, "Kynan Shook" <kshook at cae.wisc.edu> wrote: > I agree, it's probably unlikely that the location of manufacture has > anything to do with it. However, a couple bad pixels is certainly > acceptable on something as complex and bounded by such tight tolerances > as an LCD panel is. Most of them are certainly perfect, but it would > double the cost of an LCD to guarantee a perfect screen. > > Here's a quick note on why pixels get stuck; in general, it's because a > transistor in the screen is broken somehow. Maybe it's stuck on (dark > pixel) or off (light pixel) - perhaps one of its connections is just a > little loose. No way you'd fix that one transistor though; if you > reject one pixel, the whole display is trash. The reason? The > location of that transistor: I'll give you a hint as to where it is > located: you're looking right through it! There is a transistor for > every sub-pixel on your screen (there are 3 sub-pixels per pixel, one > each for red, green, and blue). There is also at least one capacitor. > All of these tiny components are so thin (just a few atomic layers > thin!) that you can see right through them. So, on a 1024x768 LCD, > there are 2,359,296 transistors. On the 23" cinema display, there are > 6,912,000 (1920*1200*3). Yours (a 15", I presume?) has 3,279,360 > transistors in the surface of the screen. That would mean that there > was a manufacturing defect rate of 0.00006%. I bet most industries > would LOVE their production techniques to provide such amazing results! > > Anyway, it's too bad you have a pixel, but unfortunately, we have to > wait for technology to slowly progress to get fewer dead pixels; and > it's probably more likely that consumers will choose more advanced > displays over ones that are less likely to get dead pixels, so they'll > probably continue to have dead pixel issues until there is a major > change in flat panel technology. > > On a side note, a few retailers might let you return your computer for > bad pixels, or inspect a computer's display before you buy it. I know > that the reseller at my campus (sorry, university customers only!) does > this sometimes; many won't, however, because Apple won't repair the > display for only one or two bad pixels. So, they just end up selling > the computer as a customer return (and note the bad pixel, and the > less-than-1-year warranty) for a few hundred dollars less, and eat the > difference in price. > > > Lee Yan Zhan <yzlee at starhub.net.sg> writes: >> Just got my new PB(1.5Ghz, 1GB RAM, 128MB VRAM, 5400rpm 80GB HD) >> yesterday >> and found 2 bad pixels. This is the first time in over a decade that >> I got >> bad pixel LCD from Apple. Spoke to Apple Care and got the standard >> reply. >> The help desk person did mentioned that now PB are made in China - they >> expect more of these cases. Personally, I think its got nothing to do >> with >> PB being made in China. Apple should be expected to give us perfect >> LCD. >> There should be no compromise on quality from Apple...anyway, a very >> sad >> weekend for me and the rest of my macs(cube, pismo, 550Ti). > > > ---------- > Check out the Titanium email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Titanium.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Titanium-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <Titanium-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <Titanium-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your Mac ISP > Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! http://macinternetaccess.com > > RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler > CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at <http://roadtools.com> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml