I would guess that most have applied the new update. I applied the Delta version (14M) and find that not everything was updated. Apple says the following: The 10.3.6 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for Mac OS X v10.3 "Panther" and is recommended for all users. Key enhancements include: improved file sharing for Mac (AFP), UNIX (NFS) and PC (SMB/CIFS) networks more reliable network automounts and launch of network applications improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphic drivers additional FireWire audio and USB device compatibility updated Calculator, DVD Player, Image Capture, and Safari applications improved compatibility for third party applications previous standalone security updates OK, I guess it applied most of these. However, I find that DVD Player and Image Capture are still the old versions (March '04 and August '04). Did anyone find that these applications were updated? jg