On Sep 25, 2004, at 8:36 PM, b wrote: > on a related note, is the 1.1 security update of not long ago for > 10.2.8 inclusive of the software that destroyed people's ftp > tunneling, or do I need to install the bad update, followed by the > 'patch' ? You can go directly to the patch. They forgot to link tnftpd with libpam, so systemwide authentication was broken. I had thought the original was pulled, but I haven't checked. -- Chris