I downloaded the program that Trevor Huxley suggested, loaded it into my 17"...you guys are right...it is a hacker's conspiracy...my Apple Powerbook turned into a Dell notebrick! chuckle It works just fine. Actually a nice touch that, knowing Apple, is probably already incorporated into 10.4, lol. No KP's and it is a very simple and intuitive interface. I found it aesthetically pleasing. MBurke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20050417/1ef3085a/attachment.html