On 23/04/2005, at 2:02 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: > > Is it just me, or is 10.3.9 the worst update ever? :-) As your replies indicate most folk seem not to have had the trials which have beset you. My upgrade [with the combo] went without a hitch on my TiPB 867. However if it's any comfort you are not alone. Macfixit has been running a series of articles on 10.3.9 problems, not all confined to the Safari/Java situation. Apparently there has been quite an array of differing problems. I guess that as is usual in most upgrade cases the great majority of users have not had any problems. I can understand your frustration. The worst upgrade ever? I don't think so but that's only my view. Wasn't there one upgrade somewhere in the 10.2.x series which had to be pulled very soon after release? Hope that you have smooth sailing from here on. ......... Peter Sealy Thurgoona AUSTRALIA