Hi fellow listers, I would just like to say publicly THANK YOU to Chris Olson for his very generous help. (since I initially requested help on this list) Chris took the time and energy (via email off list) to guide me through setting up my own LAMP server and database (and the various programs to download, terminal commands, etc...) which I needed to have operational before developing with the Moodle php environment I need to "master". I am always amazed at what great people inhabit macintosh oriented lists. Thanks Chris and Thanks to everyone for making this list a venue of possibility where even if the answer is not always forthcoming people usually get pointed in the right direction. (hmmmm I am not the gushy type either) LOL warm regards to you all tim tim.molnar http://www.digitaltao.ca tam at em.ca tmolnar at uvic phone: 250.472.5289