i believe it is actually an Atheros chipset you're talking about. some of those do a/b/g and are indeed top of the wifi food chain. the super G works great, but only for a few machines, and over short range. in my experiences, the IP device routers running super G oftentimes cannot handle regular B traffic and super G, it defaults all connections to the lower speed. a better device is a dedicated machine running netbsd with several interfaces of course. ymmmv, but i've seen a max of 36mbps duplex with super G setups. range is also an issue, though on a lot of the consumer grade G routers you'll see a max of 20 or so mbps, even with only one wifi machine running. good luck! it's good to see people still hacking! -Jason Economou Carbotron Composites On Feb 13, 2005, at 5:05 PM, John Griffin wrote: OK, it can’t be done. You apparently need an Atheron based PC card to run Super-G with or without the Turbo setting. Airport Extreme is not Atheron based and therefore is not compatible with Super-G Turbo settings in some of the most recent wireless routers. However, I found the drivers on the Orange Micro Web site that will allow Mac Users to use the Atheron cards with 802.11a/b/g/ compatibility with Super-G Turbo settings turned on. Reported transfer speeds are supposed to be well over 100Mpbs. Now my question: Has anyone actually tried this combination? (Mac with compatible Atheron based PC card using the Orange Micro drivers and a Super-G compatible wireless router?) jg _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium