On Jul 10, 2005, at 4:37 AM, Henry Kalir wrote: > Oh yeah? The Chinese need it cheap, huh??? CHEAP, Chris!!! Yet you > said recently that it didn't matter to you if a 970-based Mac cost > $7K. I can fish out your words, if you need a refresher. I don't need a refresher, nor am I Chinese. I also have a $27,000 SGI Tezro. I doubt many of those exist in China. You buy a machine to do a job. Cost is immaterial in high-end computing when nothing else can do the job. I said I want Apple to continue to offer PowerPC-based PowerMacs, and I don't care if they cost $7,000 as long as they're available after Apple switches the rest of the sheep-like Mac using masses to Intel processors. The reason is because OS X is only licensed to run on Apple hardware, and I have a lot invested in OS X software. And I have a vested interest in the PowerPC platform. Apple has been the perfect marriage. But they're going to loose a customer. IBM has cheap boxes with PowerPC processors (that are more powerful and cost less than an Xserve BTW). The Chinese will buy those, especially when they're built by Lenovo. The PowerBook line is a gonner. I'll be switching to a ThinkPad as soon as they're available with PowerPC processors. You can mark my words - they will be available with PowerPC after Apple makes the "switch". I'm already starting the migration to linux-based software - I installed PowerPC Debian in my PowerBook a couple weeks ago and am dual-booting it. By the time Apple makes the switch I'll be ready to switch from OS X to Linux so I'm no longer tied to Apple hardware. Like Brian said - Apple has no "roadmap". They're pulling an about-face on this one. I feel sorry for all the Mac users who think that a switch to Intel processors is going to mean more apps. FYI, the API's haven't changed with the switch to Intel, only the compiler. There's going to be LESS apps on Intel for the Mac because I guarantee you beyond any doubt that there's some PowerPC apps that won't be making the transition - especially high-end apps used in science and engineering that have been heavily optimized for PowerPC vector computing. And porting an existing Windows app to Mac on Intel is just as much work as porting it to Mac on PowerPC. One thing that's become painfully clear is that Apple has done a superb job of brainwashing its users. It appears that if Steve Jobs said they were going to switch from PowerPC to dual gerbils running in a cage, Mac users would do an about-face en masse, and proclaim dual gerbil powered Macs to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. -- Chris