[Ti] Re: IBM introduces new PowerPC processors

[Henry Kalir]

Nah...it's you :-)

Best,

Henry

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005, Justin R. Miller wrote:

> Is it me or is this thread off-topic again?
> 
> On Jul 10, 2005, at 8:28 AM, Chris Olson wrote:
> 
> > On Jul 10, 2005, at 4:37 AM, Henry Kalir wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Oh yeah? The Chinese need it cheap, huh??? CHEAP, Chris!!! Yet you  
> >> said recently that it didn't matter to you if a 970-based Mac cost  
> >> $7K. I can fish out your words, if you need a refresher.
> >>
> >
> > I don't need a refresher, nor am I Chinese.  I also have a $27,000  
> > SGI Tezro.  I doubt many of those exist in China.  You buy a  
> > machine to do a job.  Cost is immaterial in high-end computing when  
> > nothing else can do the job.
> >
> > I said I want Apple to continue to offer PowerPC-based PowerMacs,  
> > and I don't care if they cost $7,000 as long as they're available  
> > after Apple switches the rest of the sheep-like Mac using masses to  
> > Intel processors.  The reason is because OS X is only licensed to  
> > run on Apple hardware, and I have a lot invested in OS X software.   
> > And I have a vested interest in the PowerPC platform.  Apple has  
> > been the perfect marriage.  But they're going to loose a customer.   
> > IBM has cheap boxes with PowerPC processors (that are more powerful  
> > and cost less than an Xserve BTW).  The Chinese will buy those,  
> > especially when they're built by Lenovo.
> >
> > The PowerBook line is a gonner.  I'll be switching to a ThinkPad as  
> > soon as they're available with PowerPC processors.  You can mark my  
> > words - they will be available with PowerPC after Apple makes the  
> > "switch".  I'm already starting the migration to linux-based  
> > software - I installed PowerPC Debian in my PowerBook a couple  
> > weeks ago and am dual-booting it.  By the time Apple makes the  
> > switch I'll be ready to switch from OS X to Linux so I'm no longer  
> > tied to Apple hardware.
> >
> > Like Brian said - Apple has no "roadmap".  They're pulling an about- 
> > face on this one.  I feel sorry for all the Mac users who think  
> > that a switch to Intel processors is going to mean more apps.  FYI,  
> > the API's haven't changed with the switch to Intel, only the  
> > compiler.  There's going to be LESS apps on Intel for the Mac  
> > because I guarantee you beyond any doubt that there's some PowerPC  
> > apps that won't be making the transition - especially high-end apps  
> > used in science and engineering that have been heavily optimized  
> > for PowerPC vector computing.  And porting an existing Windows app  
> > to Mac on Intel is just as much work as porting it to Mac on PowerPC.
> >
> > One thing that's become painfully clear is that Apple has done a  
> > superb job of brainwashing its users.  It appears that if Steve  
> > Jobs said they were going to switch from PowerPC to dual gerbils  
> > running in a cage, Mac users would do an about-face en masse, and  
> > proclaim dual gerbil powered Macs to be the greatest thing since  
> > sliced bread.
> > --
> > Chris