Apple and Intel Apple implies bleeding edge, edge implies cliff, cliff implies rock face, rock face..... they are to be climbed of course :-) Is Apple: 1. Sport climbing on a fabricated wall? 2. Free climbing with out aid? 3. Traditional climbing placing gear 4. Other? Anyway.... Apple-Intel causes me to think Trad rock climbing for some reason, ya I like metaphor :-) Little logic ...just what resonates :-) That good old gut feeling that defies logic every time and usually isn't too far from the truth (whatever that is LOL) So Jobs has lost the "line" on his route hitting some un-passable roof (or so he says) in some tech chimney, and there's seems only one option really if he wants to keep moving up. Trouble is (or maybe not) he's carrying us along in his backpack, virtually that is :-) or maybe we are all tied in with him and like early Eiger climbs in the 30's if one peels off...well.....send roses to my mom, cremation please (that's if you find the body). He seems to be going for a big dyno over to what he hopes is a solid "mother" of a hold, a big intel "wako" hole or nice positive ledge from which he can keep going up. (this i suppose is the scenario he is relating). Though he might just be pounding in pitons (which is what he wants us to believe, nice and steady and secure) However, I have the feeling this is a lunge or big jump even with OS X on intel for 5 yrs. I guess we will see if Apple comes peeling off or sticks it, or sort of slowly slides off the face of desktops as they scrabble to find some other holds (to which some of us will be the traumatized witness no doubt). My observation (and yes, sadly experience) is if you try too many of these big dyno moves in too short a time (transitions) you've got so much lactic acid built up, you just might seize up even if you know what you are doing technically and have all your gear in [ not sure what the lactic acid might be in this case - maybe just the energy needed by developers and the public to accept another significant change - or Mac Zealots picketing Apple ;-) ]. Maybe Apple's is all tied in with a nice comfy belay (Rosetta, Univ binaries etc...) but you never know just how good a belay is until you actually take a ripper. Ropes sometimes look just fine but then you realize they have been out in the sun too long or have grit in them, which compromises their integrity or they have taken a few falls already and maybe the next one is the "one too many". Or all their placed gear could zipper on them, not as secure as they thought and so their % tank as they peel off into the valley irrelevence below. I think the Intel "hold" is solid even if its not all that positive in places, though it seems flaky in places. Apple seems to have some good purchase aka grip and hold, but timing is everything when you take such chances and regardless there is always unknown things, no matter how well you plan. Of course this assumes if you do the big dyno you are on some area of the rock face that you really want to be, not just where something has pushed you offline (waves at IBM) and you dont' have the best footing or hand placement you would like. s Despite planning this is all unknown stuff (what Jobs is planning) you can scope it out all you want below but making the move always brings surprises. I keep having this vision of Stevey on the rock face, he scoped out a route (IBM) but its played out and now he is standing with Sewing machine arms and legs (all a tremble from the lactic acid). He's a great climber, but he's really going "waaayyyy" out there to make the lunge and place some gear into the hopefully more secure and bomber placement near the big Intel Wako. I hope he sticks it, I am rooting for him, but despite his calm demeanour I am nervous for Apple [ as nervous as a non multi millionaire can be LOL :-) ] He's really telling us to get ready on Belay as he does his thing. He has pulled off some brilliant moves in the past and flashed (climbed something site unseen with no beta - info) the whole Ipod thing. Still I am bit worried but not in a nostalgic kind of haze. Regardless I will keep buying Apple until Stevey transitions to Longhorn ;-0 This is just fascinating to watch whatever happens. regards tm tim.molnar http://www.digitaltao.ca tam at em.ca tmolnar at uvic phone: 250.472.5289