On Jun 13, 2005, at 3:26 AM, <illovox at comcast.net> wrote: > Though Shawn's existential proclamations regarding the certainty of > knowledge and confidence and the futility of extrapolation are > philisophically sound, I am fairly content with the assertion that > such an approach is not particulary applicable to Intel's general > puruit of knowledge, economy and leverage. Intel's processor roadmap reads quite plainly for at least the next two years. And it's quite easy to extrapolate even after that because Intel follows AMD's technology, and has for the last 6 years short of a few flings with disaster such as IA64. > Maybe Steve figures not many really use laptops for vector > applications? Not necessarily vectorized apps, but 64-bit. You can buy a Wintel portable with a 64-bit processor (AMD64). That will not be available from Intel. Even on the desktop 64-bit computing is an add-on, not a design, in the x86 world. Once you boot an x86 box with 64-bit pointers turned on you're locked in - you need a full 64-bit OS, device drivers, apps, etc.. Gone is the seamless transition to 64-bit like we had on PowerPC where we could support both 32-bit and 64-bit computing with one release of the OS. And you could run a 32-bit core (which is faster in most instances anyway than pushing 64-bit address space around for apps that don't need it) and only turn on 64-bit for apps that need to access huge amounts of memory. My prediction - IBM doesn't get their panties in a bundle over stuff like this - they get even. In 2007, just as Apple's transition is about complete, they'll release a new desktop PowerPC processor with virtual cores (aka the Power6) that will flat blow everything in the ancient world of x86 right out of the water. And they'll market it through Lenovo with a 64-bit linux operating system. It's been said there's 10 types of people in the world. Those that understand binary, and those that don't. -- Chris