>> Which brings up a new question. They can't be called PowerBooks >> anymore, can they? Will it now become a PentiBook? Actually, if we had to wait around for PowerBook G5, we would call them: PentUpBooks :-=) I think much of the switch (at least in the near term) is about laptop market. Notice the main case Steve made was Performance per Watt. Although I'm sure the Performance/Watt thing is related to pro desktops, as far as cooling/size is concerned, I think the first Mac with intel Inside will be a notebook, and it will still be called a PowerBook. Me = not a developer, nor seated at the right hand of the Steve, but I write about it (simplistically, sometimes) macmaineiac.com Shawn, Chris, all. I love reading what you all have to say. Never give up. Never surrender. I'd take either of you guys as my defense attorney. 'Av a doodun, Pete