Hello, I'm just back from WWDC and I find Titanium list getting all crazy. Titanium is not the place for discussions about Apple's move to Intel. There is a list that is specifically for the purpose of discussing future versions of Mac OS X called Xdreams. It even specifically mentions Intel on the page describing the list (even though back in 2000 when we put that on there it sounded crazy!) <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Xdreams.html> Please allow the discussion on Titanium list to return to discussion of Titanium Powerbooks. If you are wanting to discuss something other than Mac OS X on Intel or Titanium PowerBooks, then I suggest you look into the other lists available. <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/> I try to run my lists as hands off as possible, but things that are never acceptable include profanity and personal attacks. I've put the list on emergency moderation and will be monitoring the messages through the list over the next couple days. Eric Prentice Listmom