On 11/22/05 11:19 AM, "George Kurten" <gvsk at earthlink.net> wrote: > Specks: Oig. Titanium G4 400 MHZ 512 ram running 10.4.3 > > Problem: Choosing restart or shutdown begins the process by closing the > desktop but then freezes. Leaving me to have to push the power button > to shut it off. > > Any trouble shooting Suggestions? Try getting Doktor Cleaner and running a long fix. This seemed to have cleared up a number of similar problems for me on my 1 Ghz PBG4. It clears out the caches, fixes permissions and some other clean up work. It's free and relatively fast so it will cost you only a little time. Look on Versiontracker. -- Jesse "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." - John Wayne