Lists said: >It is easy to do, because the OS is inherently insecure with some >security added on later. Agreed. With *some* security. >Look at the recent Sony rootkit fiasco >(*). The OS allowed for a program to be installed which completely >undermined the security of the operating system. > >NOTE: **** anti virus and anti spyware programs did NOTHING to >protect against this security flaw. That is quite mind-puzzling yes. But if Apple allowed for it (not unthinkable but unlikely) couldn't it happen on Mac OS X too? Apple already prevents copying some of their application CDs, even with third party applications. I tried to make a backup of FCP 3 once and the OS said "illegal operation". But perhaps what Apple does is beside the point. >In Mac OS X you would at least have to enter your administrator password. >If you download a program from an untrusted source and then blindly type in your >password when asked, you will be at risk. And how unlikely is it that if a *trusted* company integrates this kind of tech with their installer, that a users/admins will detect the installation of malicious code? I have legal copies of software that phones home and I refuse any connections that I can identify, so I use Little Snitch, firewall and network settings to prevent it. >Outlook Express (the free mail program bundled with Windows) is so >poorly designed it ought to be renamed a Virus Distribution >Application, Exactly. >Many people refer to it as "LookOut!" LOL