On Nov 27, 2005, at 11:15 AM, Chris Olson <chris.olson at astcomm.net> wrote, replying to Shawn King <shawn at yourmaclife.com>: > Note that persons outside the US do not need to register their > works in order to bring suit. Copyright, like most rules and laws, is a bit more complex. There is the basic rule, and the exceptions, and the exceptions to the exceptions, ... Just a few of the issues: where was the work created, where first published, citizenship of the creator, whether the work was a 'work for hire' and thus owned by employer, when was the work created, whether the work was copyrightable, whether the writer is the owner of the writing (not always the case with elist posts), etc. Plus, under USA law, there is the matter of "fair use," 17 USC 107. Making one's own opinion heard/seen and including the relevant part of a prior post would generally be seen as fair use. One more reasons it's good practice to edit replies--easier for readers, less bandwidth, and increased fair use defense. For a USA citizen to attempt to enforce a claimed copyright in a short email would in most cases be both difficult and expensive. Then, beyond copyright, there are the contract law issues. > I do believe you received an email with a specific copyright > declaration, stating you do not have permission to publicly > distribute it, regardless of its commercial value. One can create a binding contractual agreement to keep some information private. This is rarely done by sending the message and within that same message asserting its privacy request. Such often would just be a request. To get some contractual teeth, the offer to convey information should precede the information, and the information disclosed only after the recipient agrees to keep the information private. And there may be some impact from the contract formed by a user using a TheMacintoshGuy list. <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/ titanium.html>: "Some informal rules for this list...Treat your list neighbor as you wish to be treated. Address breaches of Netiquette. privately, not on the list. Assume the best, not the worst." Also, "9. Who is on the list? How can I get a copy of the E-mail addresses on the list? List member names and addresses will be kept strictly confidential and will not be released to anyone." This has some implications when a list member takes a on-list communication off-list. Interestingly complex implications. And then there is the contract between the posters and their ISP. Formal agreements between persons are generally modified by their behavior (course of dealing) and the general expectations of their industry (trade usage). The Internet appears to have generated a wide divergence of what elist owners and elist members consider appropriate. For those seeking a general bottom line-- Within the United States jurisdiction, assume anything you say or write is free to circulate unless it or its context is changed to make the statement deceptive, harmful, or there is a proper prior restriction on its distribution. Daniel Kegan * daniel at keganlaw.com * Kegan & Kegan, Ltd. We identify, develop, and protect intangible business assets and counsel other professionals on legal issues. Balanced Counsel for Smart Clients * <http://www.keganlaw.com> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *