Dr. Hutley, I would say that it is likely that you are simply running up against the capacity limits of the DVD. While the theoretical limit is 4.7GB, things like directory structures, as well as lead ins and lead outs, take up significant amounts of space... and this can vary depending on whether you are saving lots of little files or a few large files. The fact that you got 4.17GB on the disk and that the DVD works fine indicates to me that it just ran out of space. Toast generally does a good job of estimating how much it can fit onto a particular type of media but it may have overshot slightly and so when your DVD drive started saying it was out of space Toast just halted and came back with the errors you saw... obviously not handling it very gracefully. As you saw, lowering your data to 4.0GB solved the problem. In the future just keep an eye on things when your data surpasses the 4GB or 4.1GB point. The suggestion to try installing Patchburn does not apply here. Patchburn is a nice utility that basically tells the Mac OS to go ahead and provide burn support to non-Apple drives so they can be used with iTunes, Finder Burning etc. But it does not interact with Toast which has its own set of drivers. I'd say that your first guess that the problem stems from a bug in Toast is right on in that Toast's estimation of how much space your data would actually take up on the DVD were slightly off. Best Regards, Arnie Ramirez MCE Technologies, LLC http://www.mcetech.com On Oct 22, 2005, at 3:31 PM, Dr Trevor J. Hutley wrote: Al-Powerbook, OS X 10.4.2 I am making backups/archives of many of my files on to DVD using Roxio Toast 6 Titanium 611. I made several this morning. When I was making a backup of my eyeTV files, I got this error message: The drive reported an error: Sense Key = HARDWARE ERROR Sense Code = 0x03 then The drive reported an error: Sense Key = ILLEGAL REQUEST Sense CoDe = 0x30, 0x05 CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT about 90% of the way through writing the DVD. It seems that 4.17 of the 4.2 Gb of files was in fact copied, and the DVD works fine. There are perhaps a few files not copied. Does anyone have any idea what these error codes mean, and their true significance? I am using Imation DVD-R 8x but only burning at 1x. This happened when I put another DVD in and repeated the burn, so it was not the DVD media (unless both are defective in the same way). I then tried one DVD from the bottom of the spindle, to see if it is the same. It was. 4 min 14' left to burn, same error message. Next, I tried reducing the size of the DVD content to just 4.0 Gb, from 4,2. No problem.... How do we explain that ? Bug in Toast? regards, Trevor _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium at listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984