On Sep 22, 2005, at 12:07, Bradley Ellis wrote: > > On Sep 22, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Chris Olson wrote: > >> >> The model I looked at was a "t", not an "m". Price on it was $799 >> at the dealer in Rice Lake, and they had two in stock that had >> been pre-ordered. > > I hope this discourse remains civil - I have found it very > interesting to date, but . . . > > Doesn't this "t" designation merely add a combo drive? Such a > difference is hardly significant compared to all the other > inferiorities Ian mentioned (Celeron processor, 256 RAM, 40 gb hard > drive, etc.) to an iBook or PowerBook. > > Sincerely, > Brad > Custom-configuring that particular z60t with a "multi-burner" and a 3- yr depot warranty produces a retail price of $1510. It does have 802.11b/g built-in and I think this model also has Bluetooth. And, there's a built-in biometrics sensor. It looks like the titanium part is just the outside cover on the display half, but I've never seen it in person so I don't know what the rest of the case is made of. So apparently, individual dealers who bulk-buy can get their price down to 53% of the retail price, if it's indeed the same configuration with the Celeron (otherwise, it could be more like 35% of the retail price--wow!). But then, I can get a Powerbook G4 15.2 in. 1.67GHz model for $1899 at our student store, and Applecare for another $99 (due to a "special buy"), compared to the normal $2100 + 239 education price, so I suppose there's considerable leeway if the dealer is purchasing in big lots. Jeff Lew UCLA Atmospheric & Oceanic Sciences