Please Gentlemen, Before you scare away any more newcomers to the list, so that they will unsubscribe, could you please keep the list on topic again. Lots of people is still on modem connections and it is timeconsuming downloading a lot of email just to delete them because they really are off topic. As listmaster Eric has pointed out there are separat lists for this sort of argument. I myself don't mind an occational of topic mail with a question or an information, but surely you don't have to jump in and argue back and front endlessly just for the arguing. :-) Lisbeth in Gothenburg <http://homepage.mac.com/holisticum/> updat 050215 <http://www.got-a-mac.org> medlemssida för Got-a-Mac (Mug in Gothenburg)