On 9/23/05, at 8:51 PM, Tarik Bilgin, <tarik at opalblue.com> said: >I can only speak for myself, but I find the noise more interesting >to read than the "signal" :) Supposedly a good place for "noise" is the Apple Perspectives mail list, but it's usually very quiet. Tom Miller .................................................. "The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side." R.O.Clark ...................................................