>Has it gotten more informed from there? > >I reiterate that the discussion and debate of Apple's future here >has absolutely influence in the actual future of Apple, and serves >no purpose other than giving some people an opportunity to argue >about what they think Apple is doing right or wrong. For the most part this waste of bandwidth by a half-dozen or so folks reiterating the same speculation for months on ends reminds me of male dogs in a frenzy to keep marking their spots on top of one another to the point that they eventually pee on each other ;-) -Mike