Best suggestion for a spudger I've seen was a plastic guitar pick. I make my own spudgers from some thin Lexan (polycarbonate) strips I have in my shop, I nip off a 4" chunk and sand the end into a slim wedge. When the end gets buggered up I just resharpen it. Another good tool is a plastic putty knife, which usually cost all of $0.79 or so at the local hardware store. Sometimes they need reshaping, but that's what sandpaper's for. Really any thin stiff wedge-shaped plastic thingy will do the job. dan k ................................. http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 .................................