>I don't mind all the speculative talk and Apple second guessing but >I sure could use some help from time to time troubleshooting >problems. > >Does anyone know of another group that is more focused on that type of help? send an email to join this list: join-powerlist at sparky.listmoms.net or go to listmoms.net It is a heavily moderated list for Powerbook users. It is not restricted to the "newer" Titanium and above Powerbooks, and there is a lot of traffic -- enough that I subscribe to the digest form of that list. It does have lots of qualified, great folks for answers to Powerbook stuff. They did let a bit of speculation run after Macworld, but they killed all the threads today. They also run a list called Apple Perspectives where folks can argue their opinions all day long! (hint, hint for those of you who can't let anyone else have the last word) -Mike