On Jan 15, 2006, at 12:50 AM, Thomas Fulton wrote: > Vectorworks and Multiframe are stand out apps in this regard. > Even with the potential issues concerning translation of dwgs they > still make for a more efficient, stable and productive environment > to work in. We use Ashlar-Vellum Cobalt and Xenon, which also provides a productive design environment. I never said these applications aren't viable. I said the defacto standard doesn't exist for the Mac, regardless of whether or not it's a dinosaur. Here's what happens: Say you have a shop that has 250 seats running AutoDesk products. This design shop is going to have a much more significant investment in software than they do hardware/operating environment. This shop is never going to transition to Mac OS because it adds another layer of complexity to their internal support department, having to support yet another application suite (Vectorworks, Ashlar-Vellum, or what have you). The financial realities of supporting multiple application suites internally, and dealing with yet another vendor with per-seat licensing issues etc., kills it. Add to that the many choices in things like FEA software in the Windows environment, which simply doesn't exist on the Mac, and the Mac looses out in an area where it should excel - design and data analysis. So even if you use Mac CAD software, but need to do linear static & dynamic stress analysis, eigen, steady/unsteady heat transfer, incompressible fluid flow, etc., analysis, you're going to be still using Windows, Linux, Solaris, or IRIX. There used to be some good FEA software for Mac OS Classic, but we lost it during the "last big transition" from OS 9 -> OS X. We can't afford too many more of these "big transitions", aka PowerPC -> Intel, because the Mac just keeps getting more expensive to support with every one. -- Chris ------------------------- PGP Key: http://astcomm.net/~chris/PGP_Public_Key/ -------------------------