On Mar 1, 2006, at 8:23 PM, Chris Olson wrote: > On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > >> Maybe you could de-nastify it to do something benign and let >> people try it rather than trying to cow them with your nuclear >> threat. > > Maybe I could. But I won't. All the demos on the web from the so- > called security experts did something benign. Apple was able to > patch that. However, I ask you to consider the difference between > real world and benign demos - if a real hacker decides to > compromise your machine, do you suppose he'll do something benign? Well, I read these lists to learn things not to get ego stroke. If an exploit can automatically open a calculator, even a nitwit can see that it could do something quite nasty. There's no need to actually do something nasty. > I don't have, nor ever said anything about a nuclear threat. Sorry, that was a simile for having all one's files permanently deleted which I recall you suggested your exploit would do. > I said Mac OS X has a security problem, and Apple still hasn't > fixed it. Of course Mac OS X has a security problem. In fact, it probably has many as yet undetected and unfixed. Nothing's perfect but some are better than others. Why are you ignoring Paranoid Android 1.3? Bill