On May 8, 2006, at 7:26 PM, Alan Vonderhaar wrote: > Whatever. The ultimate issue is whether it's usable as a "laptop". The 15" MacBook Pro that I've played with is definitely too hot to place in your lap unless it's doing nothing but idling. > And of course max core temp implies heavy lifting. Of course it does. But Intel has a different concept of "normal" operating temperatures vs what we're used to in the PowerPC world. For instance, the mobile Celeron and Celeron-M run at 100°C and pull a whopping 26.3 - 37.7 core amps @ 1.3 VDC! Of course, the Core Duo is an "improvement", but it's still not close to the PowerPC world for efficiency. And BTW - if you look at the heat removal system in the MacBook Pro (similar to Intel-powered Thinkpads), that same system would very adequately cool a dual-core G5 processor as well. The dual-core PowerPC 970 MP's (with built-in virtualization) are available in IBM Blade servers running linux, and they're renowned for low power consumption, low heat dissipation, and they're air-cooled (not liquid cooled aka the PowerMac). -- Chris ------------------------- PGP Key: http://astcomm.net/~chris/PGP_Public_Key/ -------------------------