At 01:38 PM +0100 01/09/07, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: >On 9 Jan 2007, at 13:24, Frank Ettenberg wrote: > >>Hello List, Just wanted to relate that I am a Tit. g4 1.67ghz >>Powerbook owner. I bought it on ebay and the original 'owner' sold >>it 'as is', without the original OSX disks. In any event, I am >>also a self-taught Mac user, therefore VERY prone to making >>mistakes in using the pb & sussing out problems with this machine. >>The powebook seemed to be having problems-but not really very >>serious ones- in early Dec during startup and in using certain >>applications, so I heeded some advice given here, such as getting >>info via Terminal. I really didnt know what I was doing, so using >>a program like Terminal & AppleJack-for me- was a BIG mistake and >>perhaps led to the major system/hard disk malfunction that >>developed around Xmastime. I could no longer get anything but an >>incomprehensible error message out of AppleJack-doing a command-s >>at startup-and the startup never got any further than the whirling >>circle on the grey screen. I contacted a local technician and he >>said that the system malfunction was next to impossible for him to >>diagnose & he'd never before seen anything like it. A mac friend >>of mine said that a previous user of this pb might have processed >>movies or videos & that process tends to really upset formatting of >>info on the disk. The seller of this unit may or may not have done >>a clean install of the disk before selling it & the technician >>doubts that. At any rate, I appreciate the notion of info >>sharing, but, in effect, I as an amateur have little ability to >>understand what y'all are saying and recommending a large part of >>the time. Just a note for everyone--this game can be very >>expensive, of course, especially for ignoramuses like me. ( I paid >>the tech about 450 dollars to fix the problem--he recovered just >>about all my jpgs and other data, so at least I know I must >>regularly back everything up.) Anyhow, I now have a perfectly >>functioning pb since he formatted the disk-except that it slows >>down considerably when I've just started Limewire-and I have to >>replenish a lot of the software that was discarded in the >>clean/install that the tech wound up doing. > >Frank - probably most of us on the list are amateurs (i know some >are not), but with experience, and we heave learnt lessons the hard >way. > >I think the lesson from your story is "if you buy or get a Powerbook >from somewhere else, reformat the disk and reinstall the latest OS, >before you do anything else". When formatting (also with a fresh drive) it is best practice to 'zero all data' which means the drive re-maps (aka avoids bad sectors). I've gotten a used PowerBook, and did that before installing the latest OS. You might even check on Apple's support site on formatting drives to get more background on all the options. -- erik g gaderson at gmail.com